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 Naslov prispevka: Ne upam komentirati slik!
OdgovorObjavljeno: 17 mar 2012, 08:45 
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Nekaj mesev že spremljam slike, ki jih ljudje ojavljajo na tej strani in povem vem, da sem navdušena nad skoraj vsemi. Ene so mi bolj fenomenalne od drugih. Če bi to bil facebook, bi nonstop klikala "všeč mi je". Problem je v tem, da nisem fotografinja in razen tega, da ločim med sliko, ki mi je všeč in sliko, ki mi ni, o fotografiji ne vem prav veliko. Za veliko slik sploh ne vem, kako so bile narejene (pa bi rada....to je tema za drugo temo:)
Glede na to, da imajo izredno malo komentarjev, bi moji navdušeni kometarji izstopili, kar pa ne želim. To pa zato, ker ne želim, kot nepoznavalka pristati na črni tabli.

Kaj vi mislite o tem?

Naj vseeno pripisujem slikam "fenomenalna, res dobra, zelo lepa, ta mi je noro všeč, kako si pa to naredil-a, vau kake barve, super makro" ali naj ostanem tiha občudovalka teh neverjetno lepih slik?


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OdgovorObjavljeno: 17 mar 2012, 09:44 
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Črna tabla je načeloma namenjena tistim, ki se malo preveč hecajo :D

Mogoče skromen nasvet: Probaj najti tisto, kar ti je všeč na fotki, najdi mogoče še tisto, kar ti ni všeč, in to napiši. Se strinjam, da samo od "fenomenalno" "lepo" "strašno mi je všeč" nihče ne bo imel kake koristi, razen malo napihnjenega ega, ampak gotovo lahko svoje videnje slike zapišeš malo bolj analitično.

"Lepa fotka" je tudi za fotografa precej manj učinkovita pohvala kot pa "Zelo mi je všeč motiv, kompozicija se mi zdi zelo dobro zastavljena, svetloba je čudovita."

Konec koncev se pa nihče ni učen rodil.


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 Naslov prispevka: Re: Ne upam komentirati slik!
OdgovorObjavljeno: 17 mar 2012, 10:59 
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Glede na šest komentarjev, ki si jih napisala, ti povem, da so tvoje skrbi popolnoma odveč. Kar tako naprej!


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 Naslov prispevka: Re: Ne upam komentirati slik!
OdgovorObjavljeno: 17 mar 2012, 12:18 
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Hala za odgovor se že veselim komentiranja :)


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OdgovorObjavljeno: 17 mar 2012, 14:02 
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Samo namig. Ni treba, da znaš speči fantastično torto, da bi vedela katera ti je všeč in kaj v njej je tisto, kar je najboljše :)


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 Naslov prispevka: Re: Ne upam komentirati slik!
OdgovorObjavljeno: 17 mar 2012, 17:28 
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Na temle portalu se najde naslednji nasvet glede pisanja kritik:

http://1x.com/forum/how-to/30712/tutori ... -to-write-

There are several tips I can give you. I will start with the most important one which is spending the right time observing and evaluating and image. The more you concentrate on an image, even on those which in the beginning you might think you have nothing to say about, the more you will start finding things you could say about it.

Bear in mind that nobody demands you to be a professional giving critique. Start from where you are and base yourself on the things you think you are confident enough to say. Also, you don't need to pinpoint everything, just simply point out the things that you think are the important things to say about the image. For example, maybe you see a photo with focus and coloring problems, and in your opinion you might think you can provide better judgment about either of those, then just focus your critique on those.

Now, with all this in mind, then the rest is easy. I will give you a basic and common structure for a good critique. (this is how it was for me in architecture school where each of us had to do this exercise three times a week ,criticizing our classmates' projects)

First you start pointing out the good things you see about a photo, you tell the things you think that are working fine, and also it is important that you express what is it about those things that make you like that image, the things that attract and appeal to you. Starting with the pluses is a very important thing to do, it creates good predisposition in the author you are critiquing so he can bear the minuses part better. There might be cases where you think everything is wrong about a photo and you don't like absolutely anything, in that case you could express why you feel that (in a polite and gentle way)

Second, you begin with the flaws. These can be compositional, technical, problems with the message, the story, the post processing and things that are making the photograph or the photographer's intention to fail. Here it is crucial that you explain why you think this or that is not working. So once again, for every thing you find, for every WHAT, you have to follow it with a WHY. Pointing out flaws has to be done careful though. You have to be delicate and subtle in the way you say the negative things. Any critique on any artistic manifestation hurts deep inside the artist's soul, very easily. Not that artists are fragile creatures but they are usually more sensible.

Third, the last part involves your active part, you are not the observer any more, now you are helping this photographer become better so you come up with your ideas for improvement. For all of the things you pointed until this stage, you can start providing suggestions to make them better, to fix them. From a photoshop tip, to a placement of a focus point, to the POV, etc. Tell the photographer how he can make those flaws that you found, better. One critical thing to consider when doing this, and this is not easy, is to put your mind in the photographer's mind-frame, because you need to help him develop and improve his own idea, not yours. Don't tell him blue is better if he is aiming to convey warmth because that will deflect him from his concept and will confuse him. This takes practice and experience but keep it in mind when providing critique. This is like teaching somebody how to fly on his own, they have to do it their way with your help, but you cannot do it for them, your way.

And last but not least, I will tell you the most underestimated feature of critique. Most people are under the impression that receiving critique is the only way that will help them improve their photography that's why we very often see people rushing through, making short and pretty useless comments on other's photos. Well, WRONG! nothing could be further away from reality. The constant exercise of reviewing images with close attention sharpens your ability to see and understand photography better (ideally you are coupling this with reading books on photography and composition on the side), it helps you improve your own skills. Through critiquing others you will then be able to appreciate your own work in a different way, thus you'll be able to be self-critical about yourself which is one of the most important things as well, and something you should strive for to eventually develop your own vision. Apart from giving, there is also reading. Read other people's critiques. You have the luck to be able to read and see what many other pairs of eyes see and think about the same image, it will not only help you learn critique better but you will also see things that you hadn't been able to see yourself, this will broaden your horizons.

To sum it up...for critique you always need to point at WHAT first, explain WHY after and tell HOW in the end. Bear in mind, it is not about quantity but quality. It doesn't matter how long you write, what matters is that you comply with those three basic questions and answers.


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 Naslov prispevka: Re: Ne upam komentirati slik!
OdgovorObjavljeno: 17 mar 2012, 17:51 
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emmc tole mi je zelo pomagalo, sploh nasvet, da se sliki posvetiš dalj časa, preden jo kometiraš


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OdgovorObjavljeno: 17 mar 2012, 20:01 
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no men je cist vsec ce mi nekdo napise 'uauuu vsec mi je', precej bolj kot da utruja z razanjem in ostrino :D :D


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